"Previews of the cards will be seen on the Whedonesque web site." Are those the previews that we've already seen, or will there be more?

septopus | April 20, 04:51 CET

I'm loving the idea behind Jeph's issue. Reflecting on where the show and characters started while reusing the concepts and style of the ill-fated animated series. I've been thinking a lot recently about how Joss reuses failed projects and unrealised storylines in other mediums, but I could never figure out how he could reuse that. Now we know.

JesusSavedIn01 | April 20, 05:08 CET

Can't wait to see Buffy reflects on her highschool years. There's so much potential there.

She could reflect back on her relationship with Joyce, her once close relationship with Giles, how tight the Scoobies used to be and even Angel. There's a lot of potential there for some great stories.

vampmogs | April 20, 05:10 CET

IGN has coverage of both the Tarot cards and the comic news from Dark Horse as well.Not sure how to add this into the headline.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/868/868021p1.html

The way this sounds,it makes it seem Whedonesque is going to have an exclusive with revealing some more images from the cards?

Buffyfantic | April 20, 07:13 CET

I added the link in for you.



Oh good. Wish they had told us about this.

Simon | April 20, 11:34 CET

I have a great idea, let's get rid of our self-linking rule and make Whedonesque a free for all advertising medium.

Caroline | April 20, 14:11 CET

You should charge a fee. You've got to stay a step ahead of that Whedonverse.com.

Sunfire | April 20, 14:48 CET

Oh he's a right 'wag' that Allie, isn't he? *rolls eyes*

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sueworld2003 | April 20, 14:51 CET

You should charge a fee. You've got to stay a step ahead of that Whedonverse.com.

They already charge a fee though (you think Morgan Freeman and free gold come cheap ?) so more like a step behind. Yeah, that's right Whedonesque.com, Whedonverse.com is right up in yo' grill, bring it !

Natural next question of course, Whedonesque.com vs Whedonverse.com, who wins ?

(both with and without weapons)

Saje | April 20, 15:33 CET

I, for one, welcome Spamesque.com. I would feel less used.

Simon | April 20, 15:45 CET

In fairness, if they go on the internet, I think the chance of them not appearing here is slim to none.

gossi | April 20, 17:39 CET

Only if the good taste police are having a day off :p.

Simon | April 20, 17:56 CET

Maybe he meant the images would debut at ign.com and then be debated over at whedonesque.com. :)

jcs | April 20, 19:34 CET

It reads to me like a dawning awareness of the role of fan sites (due to a certain author whose stuff they are publishing, for whom this is a legendary part of the package) but a real failure to articulate the difference between an autonomous site and their own marketing efforts. It does make us sound kinda like shills.

As much as some of the discussion in the Tarot thread caught me by complete surprise, I'm kind of enjoying it now as a clear example of the difference. As civil and yay-Whedon as we are here, everybody's going to state their real opinions here.

Natural next question of course, Whedonesque.com vs Whedonverse.com, who wins ?

We win. Whedonverse.com is very busy with shipping arguments.

Sunfire | April 20, 20:16 CET

Maybe he meant the images would debut at ign.com and then be debated over at whedonesque.com. :)

That's the one. (That I meant, I've no idea what DH are doing).

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gossi | April 20, 21:37 CET

Well, the "verse" in whedonverse.com suggests they are spacemen. Which would mean whedonesque.com are cavemen (even though "esque" is not something we know cavemen to say).

theonetruebix | April 20, 21:42 CET

I've been pretty uneasy about Jeph Loeb doing an issue of Buffy, but now I'm actually really excited for his issue. It sounds great.

UnpluggedCrazy | April 20, 23:31 CET

"Gosh Brutalikus, that was just so ugh-esque, I love it, it's positively dahling". Sounds like every caveman i've ever met.

And 'tis true, Whedonverse.com is swamped in the 'shipping news, which is probably why they have to offer free gold to get folk to go there. Trouble in paradise, knew it wouldn't last.

Saje | April 20, 23:52 CET

I'm so happy with the idea behind Jeph Loeb's run. (Run? Issue? What is it, exactly?) I've never been a huge fan of Loeb's work, but the fact that he gets to realize his animated series ideas in the comic book medium is pure gold: very in tune with the pastiche of the entire Buffy series and--as JesusSavedIn01 suggested--Season 8's inclusion of ancillary Buffyverse narratives (the Tales books, Fray). Really looking forward to it.

Buffy the Slayer Layer | April 21, 03:22 CET

What I was commenting on was how Joss reuses stories he was never able to tell.
Firefly: Season Two=The Original Serenity Screenplay.
Half of Season Two=Serenity.
Serenity Anime Film=Serenity: Those Left Behind.
Angel: Season Six=Angel: After the Fall.
Faith DVD Movie by Brian K. Vaughan=No Future for You by Brian K. Vaughan.
Elements of Slayer School=Elements of Buffy: Season Eight.
Spike DVD Movie with Vamp Gunn=Element of After the Fall.
Fred/Illyria Storyline from Season Six=Element of After the Fall.
Buffy: The Animated Series produced by Jeph Loeb= Season Eight #20 by Jeph Loeb.
Ripper TV Series=Ripper TV Movie/Backdoor Pilot.
Space Pirate Element of Alien Resurrection/Space Pirate Element of Titan A. E.+Inspiration from The Killer Angels/Western Elements=Firefly.

When Joss has a story he wants to tell (especially in an already established universe) he finds a way to tell it. I wouldn't be suprised if somewhere down the road Joss tells the rest of Firefly's stories in limited series a la Buffy: Seasons Eight and Nine and Angel: After the Fall. He said in interviews he preplanned it out to seven seasons. Now I don't expect these stories to be told anytime soon, but I do think Joss will eventually tell them (one way or another). I think more writers could stand to learn from this approach to storytelling.

Edit: Also, I can't help but wonder if we'll someday see the Tara resurrection storyline or Joss' "plans for Oz" that he briefly alluded to on the Season Four special features.

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JesusSavedIn01 | April 21, 05:19 CET

Back to the other tidbits - that Jeph Loeb issue sounds cool!

crossoverman | April 21, 07:18 CET

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=154436

Newsarama's report adds a few new bits:apparently a new tarot card will be previewed each month on Whedonesque concurrently with Season 8's releases (Simon, any call from DH yet?) and Jeph Loeb's one-shot will be partially drawn by Georges Jeanty in the present-time sequences.

Perseo | April 21, 16:54 CET

Hey all right, Buffy fan here, gonna click over to a comics site, prime opportunity to draw me deeper into the world of... a scantily clad, seemingly helpless blonde at Conan's feet.

Sunfire | April 21, 18:18 CET

I think he's probably defending her Sunfire but yeah, unpleasant connotations ahoy - 'Conan', 'Red Sonja' and 'Witchblade' strike me as among the worst of the mainstream T&A books (though I haven't actually read them so i'm maybe judging them all unfairly). Course, to play Devil's Advocate, Conan is set in a certain type of world with particular cultural baggage and pretty much anyone reading it knows what they're getting (but it's unfortunate that it happens to be on a page non-comic reading Whedonites might be visiting cos it's not gonna do much to promote the "comics aren't just buxom victims/super-wenches" cause).

Saje | April 21, 18:36 CET

I think he's probably defending her Sunfire

Yeah, I realized that. And she looks a bit like Buffy, and seems to be exactly what Buffy was meant to subvert, so I think we both read the same thing in it. It struck me as rather ironic.

Sunfire | April 21, 19:01 CET

This just gets better and better. I love finding out information third hand.

Oh and I wouldn't worry about Dark Horse printing Conan et al. It's their Gor reprints I'd be concerned about.

Simon | April 21, 19:27 CET

No kidding, Simon. Conan was positively progressive by comparison (even the original pulp versions, written thirty years before Gor.) Of course, I liked Conan, while the Gor series... just not. (And for something that makes both of those look good, try Jeffrey Lord's Blade series. Or, y'know, don't...)

Rowan Hawthorn | April 21, 20:38 CET

I knew when I joined that Whedonesque.com was like touching the hand of Joss... in that dark, secret, in-the-closet sort of way.

Now I find out that the world is opening up and accepting the Wonders of Whedonesque.

So, when hordes of people stop me in the street and ask me what it's like behind the pearly-gates of Joss, I'll simply tell them that I'm so glad I was accepted into heaven before it became famous. :) (My heaven, anyway.)

korkster | April 22, 00:19 CET

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/12430.html

Are issues 21-25 called "Five by Five" now ? Faith-including much?

Perseo | April 22, 10:08 CET

"Five by Five" I guess it's a play on words. Five issues, five writers, five points of view. It may also been and indication that the "moment that changes the Buffyverse forever" somehow involves Faith.

JesusSavedIn01 | April 22, 14:51 CET

And it takes us up to issue 25 (5 x 5).

(also, what moment that changes the Buffyverse forever wouldn't involve Faith ? She da bomb ;)

It's their Gor reprints I'd be concerned about.

Are they still doing those Simon ? Last I heard they were wavering on whether or not to go ahead, presumably after an adverse reaction from, oh, everyone.

Saje | April 22, 15:26 CET