My review's up over at:

http://buffyversecomics.blogspot.com

Who didn't like seeing those old friends? That was some good... damn... dialogue...

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patxshand | February 21, 06:17 CET

Initial random thoughts...

So. We see Lorne, and we have Groo back, but how much is Wesley's existence tied to W&H's building? And why is Lorne some kind of a Lord? It seems he's back to running an R&R venue, likely as a neutral zone.

Oh, Angel has a dragon, but how cool is a midnight black Pegasus?

The issue #5 cover shows a short haired gentleman in the top left position. Groo has long locks in this issue, so either he's cutting them off, or that's someone else. I'm going to bet on the former.

We now know conclusively (well, as much as it's possible to...) that Angel did NOT turn Gunn himself. It further appear that Angel and Wes are convinced W&H took away Angel's vampirism, which begs the question why W&H never did so before. So... who knows? Does Spike? Connor? Is the reason it's awkward to be around Nina because one accidental love nip could make Angel a lycanthrope now?

Interesting, and perhaps Freudian, typo (s/calvary/cavalry/) on page 6.

More random thoughts as they arrive...

jclemens | February 21, 06:22 CET

Yeah, it has to be that Groo gets his hair cut. Brian said the #5 mystery man would be revealed in THIS issue on his myspace. So it's definitley Groo.

patxshand | February 21, 06:28 CET

And for the record, I did have trouble getting a copy. I had to purchase a special variant cover (at twice the price) or have to wait a week.

I bought the cover.

Poor Wes. All getting dead-ed, ghostified and then re-de-materialized.

I was so happy to see Lorne-cakes and Groo.

XanFan32 | February 21, 06:43 CET

See my theory is basically this.I've always felt that you can't sign away a prophecy and the shanshu was still Angel's even though he would believe it to be gone.It would make him all the more deserving of it due to him willing to give it up.

In this issue Angel believes it can't be the shanshu because he signed it away and he and Wes figure it must be W&H who made Angel human to make him helpless now in this environment.

But what if it wasn't actually The Senior Partners who made Angel human as he and Wesley assume?What if it was TPTB and this really is the shanshu?That would be a big twist later on in ATF and a pretty big mind blower for Angel.I could see something like that being revealed.

Buffyfantic | February 21, 06:54 CET

Maybe getting his hair cut is what is making Groo look so mad in the next cover?

Buffyfantic, excellent thought. I noted the assumption, but really didn't follow through. We've had Shanshu since S1. While it might have been an interesting plot device to have Angel be willing to, and think he was, in fact, signing away the prophecy, that would be more of a psychological test from the Black Thorn, rather than an actual rewriting of a prophecy--Sahjhan tried that and it still came true, despite every world-altering effort to undo it. So, yeah, I agree that it makes sense for Shanshu still to be in play.

jclemens | February 21, 07:07 CET

Yeah and also Wes notes in this issue that even though W&H sent them and the city to this hellish place,they don't control it as much as they would like even though they are trying to.But they're are other forces at work here that W&H have nothing to do with.Now this of course leads into Gunn's plans which probably aren't part of The Senior Partner's direct agenda but I think it could also be alluding to us that something like TPTB could still be in play in some way.

I just wouldn't rule out the possibility that Angel and Wes are wrong about signing the shanshu away and W&H making Angel human.It's very in character for Angel to assume something like this and actually learn he was wrong later on in the season or in this case the series.It's just such a Jossian thing to reveal and to have had it happen like this to Angel.

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Buffyfantic | February 21, 07:32 CET

Oh.my.God. I was stunned with the image of Angel jumping from the building without knowing that he was suddenly a fragile human being! That was one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

I loved seeing Loren doing so well, with such a fabulous environment. I loved seeing Groo back, in style (comic books are the BEST when it comes to stuff like dragons and flying horses). I am really wondering what Illyria's deal is. This is a great series, it is all really exciting. I'm loving the artwork, the writing, and every single thing about it!

embers | February 21, 07:36 CET

So, this is my big speculation for how Angel's status will end up at the very end (so stop reading if you avoid people speculating about endings, which I usually do, but hey):

Angel will either have to make a deal with W&H whereby he is returned to his former status in exchange for removing LA from hell; OR Gunn will turn Angel, and he'll have to be re-ensouled (again).

I could be eight miles wrong, but I will be shocked if Angel is still human when all is said and done.

jlp | February 21, 09:05 CET

I definitely see Angel giving up his humanity to return LA to normal. I'd hope, however, that there was some changing of the status quo than a simple reset button.

I was kind of miffed about how OK Lorne was in spite of his last actions before The Fall.

CowboyCliche | February 21, 09:19 CET

I'm not putting a whole lot of stock in this as meaning something terribly important, but neither Angel nor Wesley said anything about the Senior Partners or W&H being responsible for Angel's humanity. Angel merely said "THEY" and Wesley did not disagree (nor agree).

Just sayin'. May mean nothing.

bobw1o | February 21, 09:53 CET

Man, Lynch completely nailed Lorne's voice.

The Dark Shape | February 21, 10:18 CET

CowboyCliche, Lorne had to be reintroduced and interact with everyone quickly. He mentions having issues after NFA, but those really aren't central to the story at this point. I agree it would be nice to see more, but I'm hoping First Night will tell more of the story.

jclemens | February 21, 11:54 CET

We've already seen "Angel gives up humanity for the greater fuzzy wuzzy", and to go back to that well even once is too much for me to be able to drum up *a lot* of sympathy and admiration for him.

It's a good point about Angel needing to stay clear of Nina even if he would like to be around her -- she still thinks he's a vampire, and there would be no reason not to indulge her wolfish instincts to give love bites. Although, given his current lack of superpowers and his soon to be discovered lack of healing magic, he may want to consider a hook-up precisely so he can get that always-kinda-wolfy deal that she has.

KingofCretins | February 21, 15:27 CET

Another groovin' issue. I agree that Brian totally got Lorne down pat (I need to read Shadow Puppets, don't I?). And yeah, CowboyCliche, Lorne did mention a "gray period," but there's been a good deal of time since "Not Fade Away," plus these kinds of issues will be explored in "First Night." I kind of think that him being lord of a happy happy place may be some sort of atonement on his behalf.

I'm intrigued by the Hagun Shaft deathstick Loan Shark (I almost typed Lorne Shark...that would be fun) gave to Spike, who then cast it off to Spider. Not the wisest decision ever, right? Because she seems pretty much down with the bloodlust when it comes to killing Angel.

UnpluggedCrazy | February 21, 15:49 CET

I think it's crazy that all these people seem to think that signing away the Shanshu means nothing. W&H has a history of having VERY binding contracts, it's short sighted to think they wouldn't do something to make this one (probably more important to them than things like Lilah's employment) stick. He signed it away, he's human but probably not because of the Shanshu, and I think it's still in play.

AthenaMuze | February 21, 19:07 CET

AthenaMuze, you're absolutely right about W&H contracts. However, one key point to remember:

The Shanshu prophecy isn't a contract, it's a prophecy. And as far as we know, W&H had nothing to do with its origin.

jclemens | February 21, 19:10 CET

The dialogue in this issue was unusually clunky, until Lorne showed up; Lynch did a great job with his voice. And he seems to write Angel well overall. But I'm just not convinced by his overall efforts here. My guess is that Joss is wielding his red pen little if at all from line to line; a shame, because Lynch is no BKV (who is?), and his ear for the rhythms of Angelspeak isn't as strong as Vaughan's. And he doesn't seem to have the Whedon/Goddard/Vaughan/Minear ability to build multiple layers of resonance into each line; it seems very much on-the-nose, and the throwaway humour really can be thrown away in a bunch of places without losing any emotional nuance, which can't be said of Buffyverse stories in general.

(It doesn't help that the art is inconsistent, but let's not pile on.)

I'm enjoying the book well enough, but it pales in comparison to Joss's writing on the Buffy comic - the one-off issue #5 of Buffy was in the top five or six things Joss has written, to my mind. Still, I admire Lynch for jumping into this crazy story with both feet, and his characterization of Angel is in line with the stark S2/S3 vision of the character (though I miss the more petulant, gregarious Season Five Angel myself - even knowing he would be out of place in Hell).

Angel Season Six points up how damn fine Brust's Firefly novel is - and how remarkable is Brust's ventriloquism in that work. I'll keep up with the comic, but given the bold steps the new Buffy is taking, the new Angel isn't top-rank stuff right now.

I'd love to see Joss take a crack at scripting Angel himself; but apparently he sometimes takes vacations from comics to do this thing called 'TV,' and I'd like to see if he can hack it...

waxbanks | February 21, 20:21 CET

Why does my Mom insist on posting on this board as "waxbanks"? USE YOUR REAL NAME, MOTHER.

Brian Lynch | February 21, 21:31 CET

Bryan, gonna echo a question someone posted on IDW. It's not a spoiler, it's a disambiguation :) Are we supposed to recognize the weapon that Future Spike is holding as something that rhymes with "the blithe" or "the smythe (trophy)"?

KingofCretins | February 21, 21:56 CET

First, general thoughts and reactions:

Seeing how Angel first discovered he was human was amazing. It was also really nice to see that in the midst of all that carnage he was actually really concerned for Gunn. Gunn seems to be blaming Angel, at least partially, for his current status, but we see that Gunn was pretty close to the forefront of Angel's mind at the time.

Lorne showing up made me do a happy dance in my chair. Looks like he managed to swing a sort of Caritas, because I can't see how else he'd manage to hold that area without constant demon attacks trying to take it from him.

Groo showing up was also awesome. Groo had his own little unique way of speaking that I found hilarious, and Brian did an excellent job at writing it. Big kudos for that.

I never tied Wesley vansihing to Gunn distroying W&H, so good on all you smart people who did!

Now some wild speculation and junk:

First off, Angel turning human. I personally think it was W&H's doing, because my wild theory that I came up with while going to bed last night is that they are punishing Angel and co. for going against them collectively by bringing Hell to L.A. as well as individually. We saw in "I Will Remember You" that Angel had to give up being human in order to continue his fight. Likewise he gave up Shanshu in season five (though I always interpreted the Shanshu to mean that he would be able to die as a human, though not necessarily live as one). Having to be human and be far more vulnerable than he actually is in a time where he really needs his supernatural abilities is certainly a punishment.

Likewise we see the Wesley has been punished by not only not being allowed to move on, but being forced to look like "I wear glasses and fall down a lot" Wesley and not "I'm scruffy and will shoot you in the knees" Wesley.

Gunn, I also think, has been/is being punished, but not by being turned. We learn really early on in Buffy that when a person is turned they actually die, and a demon just takes over their body and has their memories and mannerisms and whatnot. Gunn seems to have a bit of a Sam Lawson thing going on, where there's just something off with him. He seems to hate what he is, whereas most vampires relish in it. He took that picture out of W&H, which is either going to be a "who to kill" checklist, or a spark of lingering humanity, something vampires aren't supposed to have. Though, it's possible that the mythology is just being switched up a bit to better suit the plot. Which happens.

I'm not sure about Lorne or Spike, but Illyria seems to have something going on. I don't know what was going on behind that big heavy door, and her time powers seem to be going all wonky, so that might be some sort of punishment?

That just about ends my speculation. I really enjoyed this issue, and can't wait for the next one.

Nolan | February 21, 21:57 CET

Honey, these callouts only attract more attention! What sort of child have I raised?!

More seriously: What I managed to leave out of my previous comment is that if Whedon were taking editing passes on Lynch's Angel scripts as he does with his Buffy writers', I'd probably be falling all over myself to praise Lynch's brilliance and ability to capture voices, etc. What's missing on the Angel, to my eye, is the characteristic snap and seemingly effortless multifacetedness of Joss's own writing. That's not much of a strike against Lynch (though we could also talk about the general holding-pattern feel of #4, which doesn't seem to be just a function of its place in the narrative). I am enjoying the book, and I let more negativity into that last comment than was my original intention. Still, it's not ringing cherries every page, which Joss's own writing tends to do. (Which is why I'm posting here and not at anonymesque.com or somesuch.)

There aren't ten writers in TV or comics whom I'd put on par with Joss Whedon for moral seriousness and line-to-line musicality and structural ingenuity. But Angel Season Six is solid work and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series; hopefully I didn't burn too much goodwill by failing to say so in the first go-round.

waxbanks | February 21, 23:24 CET

Shorter waxbanks: Brian, are you hiring an assistant? :)

waxbanks | February 21, 23:25 CET

I think I need to re-read issue #4. I find I enjoy A:ATF more when I re-read them. Brian/Franco have a bit of a manic style (particularly with timeslips and the like). I dig, but I find it flows much nicer the second time. With that out of the way though, Gunn destroying W&H and Wesley disappearing was an incredibly sad moment and I thought very well done. Kudos, Brian!
Another thought, destruction of W&H: how does this affect human Angel? And... go!
Groo! Lorne! Can't wait for the next one.

leafblown | February 21, 23:37 CET

Oh! Hey Brian! (Or Joss. Or someone else who was maybe more observant than I was). So, George is official canon, now. Awesome. I love George. Does that mean that Asylum and Shadow Puppets are official canon, too? "Official Cannon" joke and everything? Cause that would be so awesome of the Official Cannon was official canon...

leafblown | February 21, 23:57 CET

W&H has a history of having VERY binding contracts

But was it W&H who drew up the contract? Not really clear.

On the other hand, Archduke Sebassis said, "Through that document, the prophecy can be undone." But never said how.

I'm enjoying ATF, but there are more than a few moments when I'm totally lost, the last three panels of page 11, for example.

Oh, and add me to those who totally missed the disappearance of Wesley with the trashing of W&H. But...Wesley looks to be in the next issue, so...

Chris inVirginia | February 22, 00:32 CET

Oh, and in that befuddling trio of panels, isn't leather-coated Spike holding the Slayer Scythe?

I'm sure all will be revealed, but on some levels, I'm hopelessly confused.

Chris inVirginia | February 22, 01:05 CET

Yeah Chris, like KingofCretins up there mentioned, it appears to be the scythe/axe. It also looks like Fray's future, given the flying cars and grungy setting. Maybe Spike makes it out of hell and lives (un-lives?) to see Fray's century.

archon | February 22, 01:48 CET

Nah, Future Spike is in Transmetropolitan. Did you spot the clue? Also the Necronomicon? Too cute for words.

Also Whedonesque's fourth mention in a comic book btw.

Simon | February 22, 01:53 CET

Whedonesque mentioned in comic books?

Caroline | February 22, 02:03 CET

Well in the letters pages at least.

The first mention was in that Marvel Spotlight issue on Joss Whedon and John Cassaday, second was in an issue of Runaways when BKV talked about his favourite websites, third mention in the latest issue of Buffy season 8 and then the current issue of After The Fall.

Simon | February 22, 02:09 CET

I liked the way Illyria's time-warp power sent Spike into the 'Fray' era.

One question, though. The picture that Gunn takes from W&H: which woman is which? I wanna say Fred's the one on the left, and Cordy's the one on the right.

Normally, I have a lot of trouble distinguishing characters in these issues, but that was the only one this time.

QuanticoMVP | February 22, 02:39 CET

Anyone else wonder what happened to Angel's tattoo? In that same panel, Wesley says calvary instead of cavalry, too.

swanjun | February 22, 03:39 CET

Well, have fun discussign this, y'all! Just go right ahead! Of course our local area was one oft he oens with problemongos so no trip 5 blocks out of the way for me tomorrow night ! So just you all go ahead and have a wonderful chat, I'll be on the porch with a jug in my rocking chair :-(.

DaddyCatALSO | February 22, 03:53 CET

You know, I got the sketch variant cover too, and I was super excited (thought I was special) but I have no idea how much I paid for it (never even crossed my mind). I was a little behind in getting to my comics so I had the delight of picking up Runaways, Buffy and Angel today! Loved seeing Lorne and Groo. Only one issue with Groo though, the actor in the show had the darkest eyes I have ever seen. They were completely black, so when comic Groo turned his baby blues my way, I was a little disappointed.

I agree with the people who think Angel went all mortal because of the prophecy. There are always loopholes in contracts and I am willing to bet that willingly signing away this prophecy would actually qualify as a loophole. We need to remember that the Black Thorn thought Angel was on their side, so they wouldn't have known about his true intentions when he signed that contract. Also, you know it would be true heartbreak if Angel gave up his humanity under the assumption it was the result of W&H pulling strings, only to find out later that he deserved that humanity.

Oh, I can't wait for the next issue now!

ninjapigeon | February 22, 04:23 CET

Never have I been so excited to see Groo! Swooping in all hero-like...being the hero that Angel is physically incapable of being (though Angel will always be a hero, no matter what, because if the Joss-verse has taught us anything, being a hero is about a lot more than the mega-muscles and speed-heal-age). I thought his voice was pitch-perfect, as was Lorne's, and, having watched "Couplet" just last week...all of Angel's pettiness and Groo's...Groo-iness was fresh in my memory. I can't wait to see where this goes.

As a relative comic-newbie, I'm having more trouble keeping up with the "Angel" comics than the "Buffy" comics. Sometimes I need multiple re-reads to grasp what's going on, but the overall "what did I just read/see?!" of season 6 has been fab, what with Gunn and Angel's big reveals in issues 1 and 3. I can't wait for more!

uptheapples | February 22, 06:18 CET

So, will they dress Groo up as Angel and let him kill the other champions?

It's just a thought...

Whistler | February 22, 08:25 CET

Whistler, you may be a genius....

Chris inVirginia | February 22, 08:35 CET

Whistler just nailed it. I have almost no doubt whatsoever. Catch would be that Angel'd have to cop to being human to at least Lorne and Groo.

Maybe that's the deal -- in one fight, you have Groo fighting in Angel's place, and in another fight, you have human Angel and Spike continuing to work through their unending issues with each other.

KingofCretins | February 22, 08:50 CET

I can honestly say that does not happen.

Brian Lynch | February 22, 09:41 CET

It would be funny, though, Brian.

How dare you have a mapped-out storyline that is serious and actually makes sense! Bow down to what we think would be amusing!

UnpluggedCrazy | February 22, 10:40 CET

I love the idea, though. It's awesome.

Brian Lynch | February 22, 11:44 CET

Wow to each his own I guess. I feel almost the opposite that you do Waxbanks. I feel almost cheated and let down by the disjointed and murky writing of the Buffy comics but the Angel ones have been a delight and joy to read each time (and I know I'm not alone in this). I'm new to comics as well but I find myself pouring over these with zeal and loving it.

As for the contract vs. prophesy stuff... Well I think it's been proven that prophesies in terms of Angel are never what they seem to be. I think that throwing a contract in the mix could be a part of the whole deal, much like rewriting the darn thing to prevent something from happening and thereby making it all possible anyway (even the bogus bits). Confusing? Yeah well time travel will do that to ya.
I just think it's silly to just assume that Angel can't void it with a contract. Of course he can. Maybe it was never going to be his, maybe it is but with restrictions that the contract puts into play. Regardless, it seems too neat and easy to just say "Oh well it's a PROPHESY so a contract CAN'T really impact it." Sure it can, and I would be stunned (disapointed even) if it didn't.

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AthenaMuze | February 22, 12:18 CET

No, I missed that Simon! Where's the Necronomicon and clue? I looked at it again and I must be missing something.

archon | February 22, 13:02 CET

I don’t think 'Los Angelus' was transported into Hell, or a hell dimension. In this issue we see Angel transported, and when he changes locations, he’s on a building with skulls carved into it. I’ve had this theory for quite sometime but now I’m more convinced. I think the people were the ones who were transported to a parallel helly Los Angeles dimension not the city.

I loved this issue. Lorne’s words were spot on! We all already knew Lorne was coming and had guesses that Groo will too, but it still made me squeal to see them (loved the black winged horse! So knighty. hee). Can’t wait for the next issue, maybe we’ll finally get a hint into the mystery of time travel blinks past/future that gave us Baby!Angel and *cough* uber-future yummy leather Slayer!Spike lol (I’m guessing Illyria is not feeling well) and what Gunn is up too. And poor Wes *pets him* he’s coming back, we know, but how will Angel react? Hmm.


ETC "dimension"

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Mirage | February 22, 16:22 CET

Huh... I make a really certain-sounding prediction, and the writer confirms it's inaccurate. I may be able to wield this power for great justice if I plan it carefully :)

I honestly don't have a hard time following either Season 8 or "After the Fall" -- you've just got to go in knowing they are being told at a much different pace. Season 8 is, figuratively speaking, a 22 episode TV season. "After the Fall" is a 4 or 6 hour mini-series, at least from what we were told about it being 12 issues. Granted, I also read them really carefully when I do the transcripts and always find I totally missed something when I read it the first time.

My own personal fanwank for how, if it needed to be explained, Angel signing that prophecy could have actually led to his current situation is that Angel wasn't signing it away, he was signing over the fulfillment of it. As in, without signing, the Shanshu would have been fulfilled based on chance, or per the plan of the Powers. But, by signing, Angel was actually agreeing to hand the decision over when or if the prophecy is fulfilled to the Senior Partners -- with the expectation being that they never would allow him to be human.

That interpretation would make it both a prophecy *and* a contract :)

KingofCretins | February 22, 16:32 CET

I have always thought that it was kind of weird that signing a contract would affect a prophesy, though I have also assumed that the shanshu was always meant to hang out there and never be attained. I also thought it was strange that the Black Thorne, if it was so connected to W&H, would want Angel to sign it away. If Angel was finally evil, the way they wanted, wouldn't they want the prophesy of him playing a big role in the apocalypse to come true? Isn't it all part of one prophesy, or am I confused?

Now, W&H's interest in him was supposed to be that the vampire with a soul would play a huge part in the apocalypse, but no one knew whether for good or evil. W&H wanted to encourage him to be on evil's side. So one thing that might make sense is that W&H decided that he had made his choice against evil and therefore transported him to a place where they could make him human and therefore not be the vampire in question.

I agree, I don't think that all of LA was transported to hell, though I would think that it looks like it to those who were transported.

I was also very impressed by how on target Lorne's voice was. I have to go back and read it again for other stuff, but that struck me right away.

One thing I don't get. If Lorne and Illyria/Spike are both in positions as Lords of LA, why in the world is he challenging the Lords in such a way that they cannot help him. Cordellia thought Angelus was smarter than Angel. Did he lose he rest of his smarts when he became human. Is the demon inside of him the only thing with any intelligence and he has reverted to the guy in the alley before Darla bit him? Wouldn't that be a kick in the head. Just a thought. ;-)

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newcj | February 22, 18:51 CET

I think Lynch's mom is way off base. I gave up on the Buffy comic a few issues in, although I keep up on what's happening.

I think the Angel series is much more in tune with how the TV series was. I enjoy reading it immensely.

Xane | February 22, 19:39 CET

The art on this comic books is getting worse issue after issue, (not a fan of buffy's art either) Starting with the fact that I cannot recognize any of the characters unless they have their costumes on. Also this issue the dialogue felt choppy like it wasn't reviewed. Luckily the story is very interesting and I think it's building up the momentum nicely, I have faith on Lynch, even if this isn't my favorite issue so far, I know he will pull it off. Cheers.

luis1210 | February 23, 00:22 CET

I still haven't been able to get an issue yet. And I just skimmed this thread with my eyes half-closed.

The mystery guy is Groo? .......you know, it's really hard to sigh and grin at the same time.

Looking forward to reading and stuff.

newcj-I have a screencap of the scroll the Shanshu prophecy is on. It's a very interesting pic. I've always assumed the scroll was more than that but hey, that's just me.

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menomegirl | February 23, 01:05 CET

I can honestly say that does not happen.


Oh well, it was just a thought. ;)

I had already scripted it in my mind. Groo is dressed like Angel, killing the champions. Angel is dressed in Groo's hides and leather and a wig, standing next to Lorne. During the battle Angel complains and makes disparaging comments about Groo's abilities:

"You think that's impressive?"

*mumble* "Show off, I could decapitate a t-rex if I wanted to."

"This wig really itches. *sniff* I bet he's never washed these clothes."

"C'mon, what kind of fighting style is that? Is it kendo, ju-jitsu, akido? Pick a form, pal!"

Lorne gives Angel a withering look, "Angel buns, need I remind you that he's doing you a favor?"

Angel sulks, "Great, now I've been demoted to pastry... again."

Whistler | February 23, 02:48 CET

Whistler, are you an undercover ficcer? *pokes at your disguise* I think you should write this down, I'm sure lots of people want to read it :D

Mirage | February 23, 10:03 CET

Guilty. I did have a couple things published many years ago, but now I just write for the enjoyment of it.

Maybe Brian can get me on with IDW, I have story ideas that would set comicdom on fire. ;)

Whistler | February 24, 12:49 CET

Took me a while to pin this thread down..
Loved this issue, my favourite so far.
I'm getting used to the art, I think I was conditioned to Buffy, and being a non comic book reader, I just assume everything is the same.
But I loved how the story flowed, from here to there, more dialog and interesting things going on. Loved Angel talking to himself in the battle and I was totally hooked when I first started reading which is a first for me with an Angel comic.
Stuff is confusing, but I kinda like it that way.
I hope Wesley is ok :( Good to see Lorne and Groo.

alexa | February 25, 13:00 CET