A great interview. I loves me some Tim. I love the fact Tim says to find and download The Inside if you want to see it - you could say this is a sign of the distribution channels not being in touch with viewers (so far).

gossi | July 02, 00:45 CET

What Tim said about The Inside DVD and to go ahead and download it reminds me for some reason of when Joss told fans to,"bootleg the puppy" when,"Earshot" was pulled by the network.

Buffyfantic | July 02, 00:50 CET

Im skeptical about "Drive" because I feel that FOX will be. I just wish Tim could run a show without it getting swiped out from under him in the first season!

MySerenity | July 02, 01:12 CET

Well, it's not past pilot yet MySerenity. It very much sounds like a mass appeal (broad) show, so we'll see what happens.

gossi | July 02, 01:26 CET

Ooh, that can't make the bosses at Fox very happy, that comment about downloading. But I'm completely behind Tim--I'd happily buy a DVD-set, but in the meantime...

And the 'Drive' pilot shoot has already wrapped? That happened pretty fast/quietly.

Yup, this is the new show I look forward to the most.

Niels | July 02, 01:29 CET

I love the fact Tim says to find and download The Inside if you want to see it - you could say this is a sign of the distribution channels not being in touch with viewers (so far).

I'm still waiting for networks to realize that they likely could make money by putting out a yearly DVD of their rejected pilots. Not only make money, but if reaction is extremely high to a given rejected pilot, they might then go take another look and rescue a creator from the rejection.

The One True b!X | July 02, 01:35 CET

Totally agree, theonetruebix. I certainly think it would have given something like Global Frequency another chance.

gossi | July 02, 01:50 CET

And even if there was no new chance, at least we'd have had it on DVD, right? :-)

Niels | July 02, 02:57 CET

What's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress? All I can find about it is it's a Heinlein book. I can't find anything involving Minear, or even anything that would be put on DVD.

I'm taking Tim's suggestion and seeing if I can find some episodes of The Inside. I absolutely love Firefly and Wonderfalls, and have been hoping that his other failed show would get a DVD release.

I'm not completely sold on Drive, but I will watch it if Fox picks it up.

alpha5099 | July 02, 04:04 CET

alpha5099, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is the screenplay that Minear has written based on the Heinlein book. It's nowhere near DVD stage - that was just bad wording on my part that I've since corrected.

Jackal | July 02, 04:20 CET

Totally agree, theonetruebix. I certainly think it would have given something like Global Frequency another chance.

That was the pilot that clinched it for me, yeah.

The One True b!X | July 02, 05:43 CET

That "5 minutes shot" sounds promising. I'm sure it will receive some attention.
But, irremediably , reminds me to "War of the Worlds", wich is something good.

Angel TheVampire | July 02, 05:45 CET

Hey, hey, hey! Canceled it may be, but let anyone suggest The Inside failed as a show! ;-)

Niels | July 02, 14:32 CET

Yep, remember, losing side, not wrong one ;).

(i'm watching 'The Inside' at the moment and really enjoying it. Web is one of the more interesting characters from a - sort of - procedural i've seen)

I really like the idea of a DVD of pilots that weren't picked up and I think it'd be good for actors/directors/writers etc. to have their work 'out there' at very little cost to the studios and, potentially, a new revenue stream and what amounts to a huge 'focus' group for them. Of course, it'd require forward thinking and a willingness to try new things so i've already put in my advanced order (it's due out on the 25th August 2000and-hell-freezing-over ;).

Saje | July 02, 15:16 CET

I'd prefer DVDs, but it's probably more feasible for studios to sell the pilots on iTunes. Less up-front costs of making the discs. iTunes itself must be kept happy, of course, but conceivably they could put out a pilot without any marketing at all, to see what gets a buzz.

Oh, and Web just creeps me the hell out. Every time you see a new ep, he's even creepier than in the last one. It's brilliant.

Niels | July 02, 16:35 CET

Web is a lovable bastard.

gossi | July 03, 01:54 CET

Exactly gossi. Only, not lovable ;).

I've just watched the one where he comes back from suspension and Paul says something like 'The world's safer with him here' to which Locke responds 'Not out there, you mean ?'. Amusing and insightful at the same time. He's kind of like how I see the SAS. Yeah, they're all a bit loopy, maybe bordering on psychopathic, but at least they're on our side. Probably ;).

Saje | July 03, 02:29 CET

Yeah, I did wonder if Web is, in fact, a serial killer. Or if he titlers on the edge a little bit. He's a really fantastic character.

And the good news is, the best episodes are the ones there on out, Saje. I commented on Buffistas after I finished watching The Inside - I actually grew to love that show, as in theory it was just another procedural, but in pratice it really got into the characters fears and motivations. If every procedural was that good, it would be TV heaven.

gossi | July 03, 02:43 CET

Yeah, I did wonder if Web is, in fact, a serial killer. Or if he titlers on the edge a little bit. He's a really fantastic character.

Heh, that reminds me of the new Showtime series, Dexter, starring Michael C. Hall from Six Feet Under, as a forensics expert who cuts out the middleman by killing murderers. Good times. ;-)

billz | July 03, 07:44 CET

Well, Web pretty much *is* a serial killer. Just particular about his victims, and sometimes killing through intermediaries. How many of those perps do they bring in alive, exactly?

You could probably write a very interesting article comparing Web to a serial killer profile.

Niels | July 03, 13:14 CET

Yeah, I think there's some meat there.

The way he filters cases is sort of analogous to a serial killer choosing victims, then he stalks them (vicariously at least) and often lures them into reach by using bait (usually without the bait's consent or even knowledge). He's extremely keen to understand the killer's motivations and once he has he usually kills them or causes them to be killed. That might constitute a 'signature' even if his MO changes from case to case.

Motive wise you could possibly make a case that he's searching for someone the same as himself, that maybe he's lonely or needs confirmation that he's not as big a freak as he thinks.

Anyway, from what i've seen (about 7 eps in) i'd say he has sociopathic tendencies (he's just so callously manipulative) but whether he's a serial killer is open to (interesting) speculation.

Saje | July 03, 16:02 CET